Answering Jordan Peterson on low IQ productivity

Jordan Peterson is surfing on a wave of popularity. Within a very short time, the Canadian professor has managed to create a cult like following. This is not something he intended. All he did was to stand up for his own liberty in Canada. Nothing suggested that he would be very successful when he started protesting. In fact, he took some great personal risks. His timing, however, turned out to be very good. He evoked a silent mass, which, just like him, thought that political correctness had gone way too far.

I have a great deal of respect for someone who is fighting for his believes at the risk of personal costs. Not surprisingly, I also happen to agree with his fight for liberty. But since he is now an authority for so many people, he also deserves to be criticized whenever he gets somethings wrong. As an advocate of open debate, I am sure Peterson would agree with that.

And he does seem to get quite a few things wrong. His popularity puts him under a lot of pressure to always have an answer to everything. Because he was protesting against political correctness, he is now often interviewed about politics in general. Peterson, however, does not strike me to be particularly interested in politics. His real passion clearly is psychology and religion. This is something he shares with many of his followers. The major cause for his huge popularity appears to be his personal development advise rather than his political philosophy.

It is not necessarily a good idea to take someone as an authority on every subject, just because he is clearly smart. Like everyone else, Peterson is only an expert in things that he has spend enough time thinking about. Listening to him, I get the impression that one of the areas he knows little about is economics. I recently came across a video of an interview, in which he discusses the importance of IQ for productivity. His thesis is that people with a too low IQ are unable to contribute to the economy. This, according to Peterson, is a significant problem, because the group of people with relevantly low IQs is quite large.

This opinion is based on common misconceptions. In order to understand the mistakes in his reasoning, let us go through his argument systematically. He starts out by quoting a number of studies which show a clear correlation between IQ and success in life. In fact, Peterson claims that IQ is the most important predictor for long term success known to us. Consequently, people with a too low IQ seem to be doomed to failure.

Jordan Peterson is a clinical psychologist, so it is reasonable to assume that he knows what he is talking about. That is not to say that IQ is the only factor important for success – personality traits like high conscientiousness and low neuroticism are also important. But apparently, none of these can compensate for a low IQ. This is not just true for personal success, but is particularly true for economic success. People with low IQs apparently struggle to be productive.

Let us look at the relationship between productivity and IQ. The argument that people with low IQs struggle to succeed in a modern economy is based on the observation that intelligence helps us to complete complex tasks. In fact that is exactly what IQ test questions are all about. That means, the more complex a task, the more IQ is needed to complete it. Peterson claims that modern economies have already become very complex, with simple task being automated. And it is reasonably to assume that the trend towards more complexity is going to continue in the future. Therefore, people with low IQs will increasingly not be able to add value to such an economy. In other words “there is not a job for everyone”, as he puts it.

It is certainly true that there is not a job for everyone. Some people clearly find it difficult to produce wealth. Examples of these would be certain drug addicts or those with a mental disease like Schizophrenia. The latter distorts the view of reality and makes a person dysfunctional in the real world. However, is Peterson right that a low IQ on its own prevents people from adding value to the economy?

As proof that this is indeed the case, Peterson quotes a policy of the armed forces, to not allow recruits with an IQ lower than 83 to join. This threshold is based on long term internal studies which have apparently shown that people with such low IQs simply are incapable of performing any needed task in the military.

The reason why Peterson things this is relevant is because the military is in constant shortage of bodies, and has jobs that require very few skills. He also mentions that one of the purposes of the military is to lift people out of poverty, by giving them a good education. Therefore, he concludes, if the military isn’t capable of employing them, no one is. Having established these facts, he points out that about 10% of society have an IQ that low, clearly suggesting that 10% of society will therefore not be employable. If all of this were true, it would be a grim outlook indeed.

But there are a number of fallacies in this argument. First of all, it is questionable to take a centrally planned bureaucracy, like the military, as a good indicator of who can and who cannot be productive. For some reason, intellectuals love hierarchical bureaucratic structures, and even Peterson, who is not a socialist, does not seem to be able to resist that temptation. The real testing ground, however, should be the actual private economy. No central planner can know what is and what is not productive work. This is of course the fundamental flaw in socialism, and the reason why it can never work. Ludwig von Mises famously pointed this out in his groundbreaking 1920 article “Economic Calculation in the Social Commonwealth”.

The real economy often gives us surprising answers as to what is and what is not productive. And looking at real world economic data, we find that the free market does seem to find productive tasks for low IQ people. If it were true that people with an IQ below 83 are unproductive, and those are 10% of society, then we would not expect to find unemployment rates in any free market economy to be under 10%.

Unfortunately, we do not have any economies that are totally free of state intervention to test this. However, we can at least have a look at some of the most free and advanced economies. Two good examples for these are Singapore and Switzerland. Both, according to the Heritage Index of Economic Freedom, have been among the most advanced and productive economies in the world for a very long time. They are also two of the most free and unregulated. Singapore, a city state, even has hardly any welfare state at all. As far as I can tell, neither of these two economies has had an unemployment rate even close to 10% in the last three decades. In fact, during that period of time, the highest unemployment rate has been a little over 5%. Today it is 2% in Singapore, and 3% in Switzerland.

From this alone, it is save to conclude that, if a low IQ is a growing problem in increasingly complex societies, then, at least at the moment, the economy is clearly not complex enough for this to have a significant effect. In fact, as far as I am aware, even people with seriously low IQs can be trained to be somewhat productive. People with Down Syndrome, for example, who have an average IQ of around 50, can be trained to fulfill productive tasks. And luckily they are often exempt from damaging protective policies like the minimum wage.

But to be fair, at such low levels, the productivity is indeed strongly reduced. This does suggest that Peterson is not completely wrong. There is some relationship between IQ and productivity. But at least at the IQ 83 level, this does not seem to be significant enough to make a person unable to contribute to a modern economy.

The next question is, is this going to change in the future? Will people with low IQs increasingly struggle to be productive as the economy becomes more complex? It sure looks like strong reasoning to suggest so. The argument, however, rests on a very questionable assumption. Is the economy really getting increasingly complex? Do we therefore need better skills to handle complexity in order to be productive in the future? What is the evidence that we are witnessing such a development?

I think this is a fallacy. The exact opposite appears to be happening. Sure, being able to handle complexity, unquestionably makes people currently more productive. That is why managers and engineers have a higher salary than cleaners or garbage collectors. But this is not a new development. Managers and engineers have always earned more than workers doing simple tasks.

In order for there to be a problem one would need to argue that simple tasks are disappearing completely. And in fact, many people would argue that we have seen a shift away from simple jobs to more complex ones. Historically, the majority of people worked in farm jobs, which mainly required physical strength, and were repetitive. Whipped, uneducated slaves were able to do these jobs. Nowadays, however, we have clearly moved towards thinking office jobs.

It is true that most people have stopped making a living through physical labour. This change came with the rise of machines which were able to do the physical for us. Throughout history, whenever we saw new technology been introduced, the assumption of most people, at all times, has been that this would lead to a rise in unemployment.

Yet, people have always been wrong to assume so. As we have seen with the unemployment rates of modern economies, their concerns have so far not materialized. There are still an enormous amount of very simple jobs left. That is as long as the government does not regulate these jobs out of existence. Almost every human being, even people with low IQs, have skills that machines are unable to perform. These skills include things like common sense or the enormous fine motor skills of the human hand. The latter is still unmatched by robotics.

Has all this new technology made our work more complex? Why would it? Technology is a tool. And the better these tools are, the easier it is to use them. Usually, technology is only complex in its early development stages. This is the stage when it is not widely used yet. A simplification for the user is usually a necessary condition for a technology to spread widely.

When computers first were invented, only the most highly trained engineers could use them. Today, my three year old niece can operate an iPad. The latter, of course, is orders of magnitude more complex than the first computers that needed to be operated by experts. Advanced tools do not make things more complex, they make them easier.

There does not seem to be much evidence that our jobs have become more complex. Sure, we now have more office jobs. But thanks to increasingly sophisticated tools, we also have more idiots doing office jobs. And there is absolutely no reason to expect the situation to get worse.

A lot of people are worried about the advent of AI and robotics. These, so they think, will create machines that will be able to beat us in any skill we have. Therefore, there will be no more jobs left for us to do. No more jobs, except for the highly complex task of coordinating these machines. This will lead to a society in which there is a great divide between a small elite in control on the one hand, and all the rest of us on the other, who will be left out of the economy.

This is an absolute fallacy that I have written about before. Machines are tools and not competitors. They are not competitors, because they do not have any interests on their own. Every tool makes us more productive, and most tools are even superior to us in some way. That is why we use them. Even a very simple tool, like a hammer, is used by us, because it is superior in certain ways to our hand. It is therefore misguided to thing that machines who are better than us are a problem. We cannot have too good tools!

And the better the tools, the simpler they will make jobs. Tools help us to complete tasks more quickly, and to a higher standard. That is another way of saying, they make us more productive. The more intelligent machines get, the more they can handle complexity themselves. That is why my niece can operate a highly complex iPad. The complexity of the computer is reduced to a very simple interface. Consequently, if machines are able to handle complexity, they can be used as a tool by people, who are bad in handling complexity. And those are the people for whom these machines will be most useful.

Think about it – when machines were invented to replace our physical labour, was it clever to argue that this was a disaster for the weak? Was it clever to argue that now only the strongest would be able to compete with these machines? Of course not. The exact opposite was the case. With the advent of strong machines, it was particularly weaker people who became more productive, because machines are not competitors, they are tools.

Just like a calculator has the biggest use for people who are bad at calculating in their head, and strong machines are best for weak people, intelligent machines will be best for the not so intelligent. If anyone will get to be disrupted by intelligent machines, it will be intelligent people, who will lose their advantage to produce. They will lose their advantage, because the economy will get a lot more simple rather than complex.

It is also a fallacy that the production of wealth can be concentrated in the hands of a few. This cannot happen, at least not without the use of force. Who would the minority of producers sell their products to? Already in the early 19th century, the economist Jean-Baptiste Say famously figured out that supply creates its own demand. There will always be an advantage of having a division of labour, no matter how advanced machines get. And it will always be better that more people produce rather than fewer, no matter which tools they use.

That means there will always be an economy, and we are not going to all become self-sufficient individuals. The only difference will be, that the more tools we have, the more everyone can potentially fulfill every part of that division. Peterson says that “not everyone can be trained to do everything”. That is true. But in the future, maybe everyone can have a tool which can do everything for them.

Life will not become more complex, but it will become easier, at least economically. That is not to say that it will necessarily be easier to find a purpose in life and be happy. That, however, is a different question from productivity. Economically, technology will be a great equalizer rather than a divider. So there is no need to worry about people with low IQs. The evidence shows that, if the state lets them, they are able to produce now, and they will be even more so in the future.

  12 comments for “Answering Jordan Peterson on low IQ productivity

  1. Paul Marks
    May 24, 2018 at 3:44 pm

    Agreed.

  2. Ken Ferguson
    May 25, 2018 at 6:08 am

    Disagree.

    This article consists of you knocking down a series of straw men you have set up but these do not represent what Peterson actually says in the video. I do agree with you. for example, that the less able will not do any worse than currently in an increasingly technological world but I cannot find where Peterson says they would.

    The reason for Peterson’s well deserved popularity is that he is brilliant at using empirical data from anthropological science and clinical psychology to burst the mendacious bubbles created by liberal progressives in relation to gender, ethnic and intellectual equality.

    He points out, for example, that in the most progressive and egalitarian societies when there are fewest sociological and economic factors in play, gender choices actually increase, not decrease, the divergence between traditional gender roles selected. He concludes from this that the biological differences between the genders is understated by the prevailing orthodoxy and that the determination of the authorities to make gender less relevant (and outcomes more equal) is misplaced.

    That those in the population with the lowest intelligent quotients are likely to be among the least successful in terms of wealth creation is a statistical fact however because such inconvenient truths do not fit with the egalitarian agenda of the left such facts are becoming increasingly difficult to reference. And this increases when disparities in intelligence based on ethnicity are posited because the anti racial consensus cannot cope with the possibility that there could be any such correlation.

    Which of course there is.

    http://aristocratsofthesoul.com/average-iq-by-race-and-ethnicity/

    Peterson is clever enough to use the example of the statistically higher IQ of European Jews in relation to the general population to illustrate this. It would be more interesting to see if even he would dare to extend his analysis to, for example, intervene in the current David Lammy inspired furore about the numbers of black people going to Oxford.

    • Nico Metten
      May 25, 2018 at 10:30 am

      You are right, he does not mention technology. But he does say that we live in an increasingly complex society and that that is a problem for people with low IQs. To that I answer, no, thanks to technology our world is actually getting more simple.

      “That those in the population with the lowest intelligent quotients are likely to be among the least successful in terms of wealth creation is a statistical fact “

      No, statistics show that these people are doing just fine in the real economy. Peterson is wrong on this. He is arguing with data from a state run organisation like the military against the market. Nowhere do I say that IQ is irrelevant. I agree with him that not everyone can be trained to do everything. But even Peterson does admit that, while IQ is the best social indicator we know, it is actually very imprecise. According to him we don’t understand 70-85% (12:40 min) of why humans are successful.

  3. Prefer not to say
    May 27, 2018 at 11:45 am

    This article comes across as quite disingenuous.

    The Labour Force Participation Rate in Switzerland is around 68%, not 97% as implied.

    The unemployment rate is the proportion of the employable population that has a job; the employable population excludes children and the elderly, fair enough, but also in many countries’ statistics excludes members of the armed forces on active duty, people in prison, people in hospitals, mental asylums, students and so on.

    If there were no correlation between IQ and likelihood of being in these other groups, there’d be no problem. There’s no correlation between IQ and being a pensioner, but there may well be (positively or negatively) with most of the other groups.

    • Nico Metten
      May 27, 2018 at 1:25 pm

      I thought about this, and it is certainly difficult to know how precice these statistics are. The unemployment rate should measure how many of the people who want to work cannot find a job. If the 32% who don’t participate in the labour force indeed would like to work, then the unemployment rate would be 32%. The labour force participation rate, however, is the rate of people of working age (usually everyone between 15 and 64 years old) participating in the labour market. But there are many people in that age group who do not want to work, like for example women with children, or students.

      You can certainly manipulate the unemployment rate downwards. The US does this for example, by kicking anyone out of the unemployment statistic who has looked for a job for more than 1 year. Those people are then classified as not looking for a jobs anymore, even though they clearly do. That is why the real unemployment rate is way north of 10% rather than the 4% the government pretends it is. To my knowledge, Switzerland and Singapore do not take part in this kind of manipulation though. So unless there is any indication that people with low IQs are not seeking work, they should be part of the unemployment statistic.

  4. May 31, 2018 at 2:44 pm

    There are certain jobs which are transitional by their nature – the one I have experience with is leaflet distribution. People in these jobs want to leave them, leaving only those without more valuable talents stuck in them.

    Of course, you can lack the ability to leave a job for many reasons. For example, you might have bad character and perform unreliably. So in simple jobs like leaflet distribution, the presence of an innate limiting factor – a disability, mental illness or innate low IQ are actually a positive thing from the employers perspective. They explain why the person is doing this particular job and keeps them in it, meaning they are reliable and worthy of an investment.

    Restated, the market creates niches safe for the less able.

  5. Alchemical Anarchist
    Jun 19, 2018 at 3:56 pm

    Hello! My first post here.

    So, rather than be controversial, I’ll just make a modest empirical contribution.

    Here’s an interesting figure–from a paper by Zagorsky, published in the flagship journal Intelligence, on the link between IQ and income.

    It’s a scatterplot depicting an observed correlation between IQ and income.

    The figure:

    https://ibb.co/jAkyQJ

    The paper:

    https://www.gwern.net/docs/iq/2007-zagorsky.pdf

    The pattern is interesting. It suggests that increasing IQ–and whatever else goes along with with it (which is subject to additional statistical control in the paper, but not, I think, in the graph)–gradually and partially predicts income rising off the floor.

    The fact that the upper left quadrant is the sparsest in terms of data points suggests that higher IQ tends to be necessary, but not sufficient, for higher income.

    That said, some outliers are remarkable, if not heartening. One person with an IQ of about 73 (just above the level of a “moron”, which technically defined as the range 50-69) earns an income of $180,000 a year.

    It’s unlikely to be a self-report glitch, as the data come from a National Longitudinal Survey in the USA which keeps objective tabs the participants.

    https://www.bls.gov/nls/y79summary.htm

    • Jun 20, 2018 at 12:05 pm

      Could the IQ be glitchy for that data point?

      • Alchemical Anarchist
        Jun 20, 2018 at 12:24 pm

        I think the IQ tests given were likely robust.

  6. Alchemical Anarchist
    Jun 20, 2018 at 12:22 pm

    Another reflection on Nico’s thoughful piece.

    One can, more narrowly, consider IQ per se; or one can, more broadly, consider IQ alongside everything else that IQ tends to go together with.

    What IQ itself influences, and what IQ predicts, are different. IQ as a diagnostic indicator may have wider implications than IQ as a casual factor.

    Peterson–at least insofar as Nico comments on him–tends to focus on IQ as a casual factor, affecting the ability to perform tasks of varying complexity. However, one might also focus on IQ as a diagnostic indicator, affecting the likelihood that a raft of outcomes are observed.

    Generally speaking, good things tend to cluster together with other good things, and bad things with other bad things.* IQ is no exception. Indeed, IQ, being a key human metric, it should be a predictive hub. Hence, when IQ happens to be high, in an individual or a group, that would tend to mean lots of good things are afoot, and conversely, when IQ happens to be low, that lots of bad things are.** This would be so, regardless of whether IQ is a cause, consequence, or correlate of some of those good or bad things.

    For example, it’s empirically established–by Scottish researcher Ian Deary and colleagues–that people with higher IQ tend to live a little longer. This may be because IQ enables to plan to avoid morbidity (e.g., by cutting back on drinking); or because morbidity itself reduces IQ (e.g., by causing brain fog); or because the type of organism that is brainy is also healthy (e.g., thanks to good genes generally).

    Hence, IQ may have broader relevance as a good or bad omen than as a narrower cause of things.

    *(This point also applies more specifically to mental abilities. In a large group, better performance at any mental task (say, playing an instrument well) predicts, albeit very weakly, better performance at any other mental task (say, having a large vocabulary). The emergent matrix of weakly but almost invariably positive correlations defines a “positive manifold”. The general view among intelligence researcher is that this positive manifold, obtaining between specific mental ability factors S…n, is grounds for inferring some mental ability, G, that underlies them all to different degrees. I don’t regard this argument as valid. Not only does correlation not imply causation, but it does not imply constitution either, any more than N clocks whose ticks are perfectly synchronized should be presumed to be one clock. But the correlations themselves are empirical facts.)

    **One interesting exception, from the clinical field, is anorexia, whose probability covaries positively, not negatively, with increasing intelligence, unlike nearly every other clinical condition.

    • Nico Metten
      Jun 20, 2018 at 2:12 pm

      Thanks, interesting points!

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