ORG action seems to be backfiring

Guido is carrying an unsourced quote by the Open Rights Group which frankly makes them sound terrible:

“The government knows that since the CJEU ruling, there is no legal basis for making internet service providers retain our data so it is using the threat of terrorism as an excuse for getting this law passed. The Government has had since April to address the CJEU ruling but it is only now that organisations such as ORG are threatening legal action that this has become an ‘emergency’. 

Not only will the proposed legislation infringe our right to privacy, it will also set a dangerous precedent where the government simply re-legislates every time it disagrees with a decision by the CJEU. The ruling still stands and these new plans may actually increase the amount of our personal data that is retained by ISPs, further infringing on our right to privacy. Blanket surveillance needs to end.”

Well, that’s one way to make an impact – force the Government into rushing through legislation that is worse than the legislation just ruled invalid. Cute.

As founding member 199 of ORG, I’m a little troubled. I guess I must try and remember whether I already cancelled my standing order. Legal action is seen, by ORG, as ORGs latest campaigning wheeze. This is not a good start.


  1. I don’t think you can really blame ORG for the reaction from the government. If nobody challenges the creepy surveillance state, then nothing will stop its growth. At least this way, it’s forced to be a little more open.



  2. I agree with Richard on this, Simon.

    As you may remember I have had serious differences with ORG but putting the blame for the government’s reaction to this on ORG is misguided I think. And aside from that it’s ensured the mask has slipped a little more, especially with Nick “civil liberties” Clegg stood next to Cameron on this issue.



    1. I see your point. When I posted this out, I talked about whether it is a “net force for good”. I see the value but if ORG or the rest of the community do not follow through and stop the legislation getting worse then I think it will not have been a net good.
      I would accept bad privacy legislation in exchange for Brexit, however. So they get another shot if the EU court is blamed too.



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